[steve-fredlund]

Hey Rob, I’m no wizard but I definitely like the KQ suited 3-bet from the big-blind versus a button open. Against and early/mid raise, I would be much more prone to just call.

As for the check-raise, I can argue a call or check-raise, but that’s not the point. The question is bet size. You are over 100 big blinds deep here, so I don’t think you need to strategize about how to get it all-in. Because they only bet 1/3 pot, its worth considering what we think they are doing here. The only draw on the board is T9.

I think a 3x re-raise is fine here; if you get called you are ultimately putting in 3,123 to win 9,200 with our bet; so definitely giving yourself the right odds assuming you have 15 outs (but don’t even need that many).

The only consideration I would have is what is your plan with your check-raise if they decide to re-raise again? I’m still pretty comfy but would like to control pot size a bit. so I might dip it to about 2.5x.

Either way with this board they are likely polarized so it’s an easy fold or and easy call/raise for them with their holding.

Rambling; curious about the wizards.

[fivebyfive]

My thought is that this deep we should be 3-betting this hand against a button open unless we have some villain reads. KQs has so much blocker and playability potential for us and the button is so wide that it is a great 3b candidate. I think I’m mostly 3betting this hand down to around a 30-40bb stack where I will begin flatting it instead. I just checked on Floptimal too. That doesn’t go this deep, but at 75bb it is a pure 3bet. It doesn’t start flatting really until it has a 25 bb stack.

But let’s proceed as played through a call. We reach this flop about 100bb effective. I like the check raise here! Not only do we have a lot of equity, this board slightly favors our range. If V is continuing with 70% of their range (basically anything with any equity: all pairs, all draws including gutshots, two overs) and we’re check raising with all of our sets, two pairs, flush draws, and a few Jx with some backdoor equity that’s around 12-14% of our range depending on some preflop defense assumptions. When we plug this in, our x-raise range has a ~64% equity advantage against the button’s cbet range. Our actual hand has 57% equity.

I’m out of position with a hand that has equity, and although it seems pretty good, it isn’t even really one of my strongest holdings that I can have with this action. I don’t really mind being called, but I also don’t mind getting folds. Because of all that and because we’re out of position and because we’re so deep, I like a slightly larger sizing. I would make this 3500-4000. But I’d be curious about other opinions.