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  • Cbet or Not — Two Tone Ace High

    Posted by arw on July 8, 2024 at 6:42 pm

    <b style=”background-color: var(–bb-content-background-color); font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; color: var(–bb-body-text-color);”>Two-Tone Ace High

    You open 3 bb on the button.

    The sb folds, bb calls with 25 bb effective.

    Pot is 5.5 bb.

    The flop is As 9s 5c.

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    Sets 9 combos

    (55, 99, AA)

    Two Pair 27 combos

    (95, A5, A9)

    Straights 0 combos

    ()

    Gut shots 96 combos

    (32, 42, 43, 76, 86, 87)

    SD + FD 6 combos

    (3s2s, 4s3s, 4s2s, 7s6s, 8s6s, 8s7s)

    Pair + FD 10 combos

    (5s2s, 5s3s, 5s4s, 6s5s, 7s5s, 8s5s, Ts5s, Js5s, Qs5s, Ks5s)

    Pair + BDSD 216 combos

    (52, 53, 54, 65, 75, 85, 92, 93, 94, 96, 97, 98, A2, A3, A4, A6, A7, A8)

    Pair + BDFD 27 combos

    (Js5, Js9, Ks5, Ks9, Qs5, Qs9, AKs, AQs, AJs)

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    You open 3 bb on the button.

    The sb folds, bb calls with 25 bb effective.

    Pot is 5.5 bb.

    The flop is As 9s 5c.

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    Given these hands, I want you to choose 1 hand from each grouping.

    I’m going to go with this list [99, A5, 76, 7s6s, Ts5s, 98, AhJs].

    Against a loose passive player,

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    Against a loose aggressive player,

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    Against a tight passive player,

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    Against a tight aggressive player,

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    The goal of this exercise is to be able to construct an argument against different player types and discovery of how the ranges and tendencies might differ.

    ARW

    arw replied 4 months, 3 weeks ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • arw

    Member
    July 8, 2024 at 8:00 pm

    Flop – As9s5c

    myList = [99, A5, 76, 7s6s, Ts5s, 98, AhJs].

    Against a loose passive player,

    These types of players will rarely raise me and they will typically have a wider range. This means that it’s safer to bet for value against a loose passive player because they have less strong hands and more weak hands than an ABC player. My plan would be to bet for value and expect a call or fold.

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    I will c-bet my strongest hands for value (99, A5, AhJs). If the player has the tendency to call large bets, then I will size up to maybe 3-5 bb. Against this player, I might expect to get multiple streets of value so I might do some progressive bet sizing by betting smaller now and increasing my sizing so that I can get all-in by the river. For example, With 25 bb effective and pot=5 bb, I might bet 3 bb, then 5 bb, then 17 bb on the river.

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    I will check behind the weakest hands and draws. By semi-bluffing my draws (Ts5s, 7s6s, 98, 76) into a player that calls often seems like a leak. C-betting would build the pot however you would be doing it with no fold equity. Instead, if I check behind and hit my hand, it might be more

    Against a loose aggressive player,

    These types of players will be aggressive by betting and raising but with the wider range of hands. They might be bluffing or it might be for value. It’s tough to play against them because you need to guess more often.

    – Which hands should you continuation bet? How much?

    Since I have low fold equity and a higher chance of this player raising, for this reason, I need to continue betting my strongest hands like sets (99) and two pairs (A5). Betting them now might induce them to raise which is usually an easy call. Let’s assume that our opponent will 3x our bet then:

    -> c-betting small (2 bb) -> (raise to 6 bb) -> (re-raise 19 bb more or 6.3x)

    -> c-betting mid (3 bb) -> (raise to 9 bb) -> (re-raise 16 bb more or 2.5x)

    -> c-betting large (4 bb) -> (raise to 12 bb) -> (re-raise 13 bb more or 1.6x)

    – Which hands should you check behind? Why?

    With the risk of getting raised on the flop, I want to see a free card with my strong draws. It gives me a chance to make my hand. It gives my aggressive opponent a chance to try to take it down and steal the pot. Since you have a strong draw, it’s more likely that an opponent has a made hand and not a strong draw. When you have a flush draw or straight draws, your cards act as blockers for other hands having a similar hand. My plan would be to check behind [76, 7s6s, Ts5s, 98, AhJs].

    The rest for another day

  • eanderson85

    Member
    July 8, 2024 at 9:26 pm

    Great stuff. I always have to reread your posts because there is so much info. It’s great that you share this, it is a lot of work. I am confused with the preflop pot size though. Do we open to 2 with a 1BB ante?

  • arw

    Member
    July 11, 2024 at 10:06 am

    Another Note,

    To find the combinations, I’ve written a python script that will do all the leg work and get the numbers. It is a great time saver.

    The hard part is:

    – Develop a strategy based on the numbers

    – Detecting relevant patterns

    – Making better assumptions

    If you ever want to chat and see how my script works, DM me.

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