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Hand reading exercise. Take your time and write down the ranges for every player in the home game. Flopzilla is a great tool for this. If you don’t have it, use Equilab in 4 tabs. I assume everyone paying for premium access to these histories is here to learn, so participate and share your results using snip-it, Greenshot, or just write it down.
Round one. 42/16/6 over 6000 hands opens to 3X off of a 15BB stack (1/5 of chips)’
1. What is their range?
2. What range do we use to 3Bet from a covering stack in the HJ?
What hands are strong enough to call?
What are our pot odds? What hands have this kind of preflop equity?
What risk premium do we assign to our reads and what your reasoning? We are all here as a group to learn, so share your reads thought process.
3. What is your argument for using a different size, if any?
Take screen shots. We will post our work in one comment when we are done. Articulating your thoughts and putting them in an understandable order that others can learn from is key to learning faster. Let’s have some fun! Make it yours. Caution, editing sessions are limited once you press send.
Moving to the next hand range.
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Range two. It folds to the button. Was 95s in the range you gave me?
1b. What is the SPR? What are the pot odds?
2b. What range to YOU 3bet? To what size(s)? Do you split your raises between raises and shoves?
Are there hands you want to use to induce mistakes from your opponents? For example, would you ever flat Aces here to get the blinds to squeeze? Why or why not? What other raise options do we have?
3b. What range is strong enough to call? How often do these hands make it to the river?
4b. Now that we are done learning our own ranges, let’s get back to hand reading. What range to you give to a 27/15/3 over 700 hands with the same stack as the opener? Ask the same questions about villain as we just asked of ourselves. Is this range the same as the one you gave yourself in this situation? Do you two play the same?
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Range 3. I forgot to mention that the blind level is 100/200.
Final Boss Dave is OOP in the Small Blind facing a 1/4 stack raise and a call.
1. What is our M (SPR) and pot odds? How does this affect our play?
2. How much risk premium do we need? In other words, how much extra hand strength do we need multiway OOP vs being heads up IP? Put a number on it and explain it. Please share this in your post when you answer.
What are YOUR 3bet and calling ranges here? Do we use different size raises?
The same questions about EvilRoy.
What hands to you assign a 41/20/4 over 11,000 hands?
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Range 4. Kian is the last one in the pot, I promise!!! We are going to go faster now. You know my questions. What questions am I missing? Think of some more and ask them to us. Remember to take a screen shot of every street (at least) so we can compare ranges and discuss. Use what tools you normally use and maybe one you don’t. ASK when you want clarity. The crew is always looking for podcast ideas. I am always looking to be better. None of us were born knowing this stuff, we learned it all and plagiarize it all. We learn faster by sharing insights and experiences.
You give me a dollar and I give you a dollar, we both walk away with a dollar.
You give me an idea and I give you an idea, we both walk away with two ideas.
Let’s see who can guess all 4 ranges right by the river. Comment on everything you think is relevant. To reset your mind, I will change the background every street.
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Range 1:
1.What is their range?
AA-77,AKs-ATs,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs,AKo-AJo,KQo which is about a 10% range and I think they could be even tighter than this given stack depth and size of the bet in relation to their stack.
2. What range do we use to 3Bet from a covering stack in the HJ?
AA-TT,AKs-AQs,AKo
Each of these hands I’m happy to call off a 4 bet shove behind us, and a call from the original raiser. I would normally have a looser 3 bet range but the short stack behind us is a tighter player and so is the BB (the two I most expect to do a 4 bet shove b/c of stack size and position).
2a. What hands are strong enough to call?
AA-22,AKs-A2s,KQs-KTs,QJs,AKo-ATo,KQo all beat the pot odds for this scenario. All have proper pott odds and are beating the range I think they have, however I’m 3 betting some of the best of these hands.
2b. What are our pot odds?
Pot odds = risk+rewards: Risk
Reward = Ante+SB+BB+RFI; risk =call=3 –> .88+.5+1+3=5.38/3= 1.793333 =1.79:1
Pot odd % = Risk/Risk+reward -> 1/ (1.79+1) = .3584= 36%
2c. What hands have this kind of preflop equity?
I figured out pot odds and pot odds percent before I built my range. In person or online this would be impossible but hey when you have the tools.
2d. What risk premium do we assign to our reads and what your reasoning?
Depends on the stage of the tournament, I don’t see what stage it is, assuming we are in the build up stage we can still play similar to a Chip-ev model. Plus we have them covered and losing 15 BB to them still leaves us second at the table. The third in chips at the table is to our direct left, so we do need to consider what they might 3-bet if we call, or 4 bet if we 3 bet.
3. What is your argument for using a different size, if any?
With the 3 bet hands I chose, going to 8 BB sets the price to either them paying half their remaining stack to see a flop, or shipping their stack (or just fold and we win). It also sets about the same pot odds for the next person to make a decision on a call or 4 bet (which would likely be all in from the Bu; but the BB could decide to come along), however with the UTG short stack still to act I think 8 BB discourages the BB from any activity after a 3 bet.
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