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range and flop texture
I’ve been working on trying to better understand when flops favor my range vs villain ranges and my hand specifically with villain ranges. Knowing how the board textures interact in these ways is a real weakness of my game, and is something I’m working on creating a SMART goal for improving.
So I want to put this out there without my specific hand at first and then talk about what parts of our range we could use to take different actions, both to stay balanced or to really exploit a player I feel I had a quick and good read on.
Villain Read: They just love limp calling, doing it in at least a third of the 30ish hands. I think I saw them limp a J2o from EP or MP and check it down. They like to call flops turns and rivers. I have only seen them bet > 50% pot on the flop twice otherwise they had not really bet much. They Raised maybe once in 30 or so hands and everyone just got out of the way.
There is another villain in the hand, but they either bet pot or fold on the flop and I don’t mind having them both in the pot, as this person will also limp call with just about anything.
Situation: .02/.05 9 max (down to 8) on ignition. Effective stack 97.2 because I don’t know how to turn on auto top off on Ignition.
Main villain limps from LJ; Secondary villain Limps from CO; I go 5bb from BU (my normal raise from IP is 3+1bb/limp). Both villains call and we go to a flop: 7s8s3h
Action checks to me: My thought process is I’m opening about 30-40% in this situation, they both have any random pair, or two pair here, while in my range I have some Ax; K7-8x, 88, 77, and T9s. To me playing against these two, on this board, seemed like playing against the BB from the BU. This board favors their range over a BU opening range.
1.Are you checking your entire range here?
2.What hand types would you think of betting if you were trying to be more balanced?
3.What hands would you be betting knowing what I know about these players so far?
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7 Replies
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Ranges:
LJ: 99-22,AQs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J2s,T9s-T2s,98s-95s,87s-84s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s-53s,AKo-A2o,KQo-K4o,QJo-Q6o,JTo-J7o,T9o-T7o,98o-97o,87o-86o,76o
CO: 99-22,AQs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J6s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s,43s,AKo-A2o,KQo-K4o,QJo-Q6o,JTo-J7o,T9o-T7o,98o-97o,87o,76o
Hero: 99-22,AQs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J6s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s,43s,AKo-A2o,KQo-K4o,QJo-Q6o,JTo-J7o,T9o-T7o,98o-97o,87o,76o
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Better check the hero range. You are not raising any pairs above 99?
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Thanks Rob, I had a copy-paste error for the hero range.
Hero:
AA-22,AKs-A2s,KQs-K7s,QJs-Q8s,JTs-J8s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s,76s,65s,AKo-A4o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o
here are the graphs for each as well.
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1. I am not checking my entire range here.
2. I would bet a high frequency for a small sizing.
3. See below
If we treat this like a BN vs BB SRP we should c-bet at least 75% of the time for a small sizing. Based on the ranges provided I came up with this as a c-bet range in Flopzilla. This is the absolute top of the range. We can trim this a little and still be strategically sound. Keep in mind that they can have any random pair or two pair here but, the fact remains that their range has so many more hands that have totally whiffed this flop. We will get a lot of folds in this configuration. We need a whole different thread to talk about what to do when called or raised.
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Thanks for the reply Rob,
As you are thinking through this, do you consider the 7 and 8 in a situation like this (or BU vs BB) as more neutral cards for both ranges while I was considering them slightly more positive for the BB ? Also, does the suitedness of the 78 make a difference in that equation? (IE if they weren’t suited it was neutral to slight favorite one way, vs tilting the other way when suited?).
Thanks for the response as always!
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The best way I have found to study flop textures is to study aggregate reports, I really enjoy sorting each bet size column and seeing what the solver likes. That being said, I don’t have access to them, so I have to resort to using the pause button on videos.
Another good option is to enter your ranges into flopzilla and hitting the random flop button, trying to guess your equity before looking.-
I have a free month to Poker forge from the food bank drawing and it is running out, but I just found in his hand reading course there is a range and flop texture analysis portion that I’m trying to get through (despite my aparmten complex doing work on my apartment finally..off topic but I’m going to have a fully functional apartment for the first time since July).
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