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  • Apestyles — Winning Poker Tournaments (Vol 1) — Hand 104

    Posted by arw on July 11, 2020 at 12:41 pm

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    $320 freezeout online tournament

    Early stages: 15/30 blinds

    Pre-flop

    Hero raises to 3 bb from utg +2 with pocket 33. Stack Size is 190 bb.

    3 players flat call to see a flop (highjack 143 bb, cutoff 155 bb, big blind 100 bb)

    Flop

    The flop is (Kc 9c 3h).

    Pot Size (375)

    You have flopped bottom set with 4 players in the hand, you’re out of position but you have the betting lead. What should you do?

    Options:

    1) Check

    2) Bet 100

    3) Bet 200

    4) Bet 300

    5) Bet All In

    jim replied 3 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • binkley

    Member
    July 11, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    This flop connects well with the opponents calling range and they can easily have strong pairs, gutshots, and flush draws. We are only behind 99 as KK would have 3bet. Bet for value. It’s close between 200 and 300. With stacks this deep, I prefer 300.

  • fivebyfive

    Administrator
    July 12, 2020 at 11:29 am

    With four players, I’m definitely betting, but I like the smaller sizes. Likely 200. Everyone is so deep. This is a hand we want to get some chips in right now, and we want to charge draws and Ks. If there were fewer players, we could consider protecting our checking range with some percentage of checks here, but with this many hands, we want to start building a pot and folding out weaker drawing hands like gutshots. We can withstand a raise with our strength, and we may see some of those stronger Ks and flush draws do that.

  • arw

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Apes suggests a bet of $300.

    The strong hands likely won’t fold the flop and they will want to see future cards. Apes says charge them for their curiosity.

    • jim

      Administrator
      July 12, 2020 at 2:18 pm

      Exactly – the weaker hands are going to fold to 200 or 300. The stronger hands are going to call 200 or 300. Use their inelasticity against them. If they are the kinds of players that pay attention to the action but not the bet sizing, you could literally value bet here with 300 and bluff (the rare times you would choose to do so to balance your betting range) with 200 and elicit similar results.

  • jim

    Administrator
    July 12, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    Especially multiway and OOP, you cannot disguise the strength of your hand with sizing as much imo because you are already making an obviously strong play. In this spot since your standard frequency is going down, your standard sizing should go up (very generally obv) and the more of the middle of your range (the thinnest value) you should be checking instead of betting.

  • arw

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Also, you are aggressive, active, and raising every hand. They think you’re bluffing and you have a made hand. Time to act like it.

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