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  • Close to bubble decision

    Posted by marcel-dusyk on May 4, 2023 at 12:35 pm

    $80 buy in nightly tournament at local casino. $1500 up top, min cash is $140. 90 players total, down to 12 players, top 9 pay, final table is 9 players as well. Average stack is about 100K. Hero is short stack at the table(51k), 1 player at the table has 60K, 2 players at the other table have around the same stack as the hero. Level 2k-4k with 4k bb ante. Hero is in sb with QTo on a 51k stack. CO limps from a very large stack of about 300k. Hero calls. BB checks (BB has 90k stack). Flop comes Q73 rainbow. Hero leads for 8k(rationale that if 1 or both call leaves a pot sized bet by the hero to jam almost any card on the turn). BB folds, CO calls. Turn card is a 9h, 2 hearts on the board.

    Questions

    1) Pre-flop. Raise rather than call? Jam?

    2) Flop bet. Any sizing changes? Smaller due to static board?

    3) Turn action. Check, bet or all in?

    Thank you for your feedback.

    marcel-dusyk replied 11 months, 4 weeks ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • surrealex

    Member
    May 4, 2023 at 2:16 pm

    So if it had folded to me, then I would like to jam. As played however, I feel like I need a stronger hand to jam over the big stack limp. Suited maybe I like a jam more as we have that bit of extra equity when called. I don’t mind the limp but this close to the money I don’t like putting in chips almost guaranteeing to play the pot multi-way out of position short. Feels like a spot we could fold though that might be nitty. I like the flop lead with top pair as we need more protection with the pot multi-way and we would love to just win this pot now imo. Sizing is fine in my opinion but maybe we could go smaller since it’s multi-way. Turn I’m just ripping it as we can get called by worse, we like the protection, and many rivers will either kill our action or make us pretty miserable. These are just some quick thoughts as I’m not super confident in this kinda spot.

  • jim

    Administrator
    May 10, 2023 at 5:23 pm

    Hi @marcel-dusyk thanks for posting another interesting spot! Here’s what I am thinking as I read your post.

    1) there are 4 players out of 12 who have 15 bigs or fewer, and 9 are paid – it sounds like you are one of 3 relatively short stacks, was there one clear shorty?

    2) you are in the SB and have the longest orbit until your next blind and ante – what was the time remaining before blinds go up?

    3) the CO open-limped – had they been limping already, and if so could you note any showdown hands or guess their frequency?

    4) what info did you have about the player to your left in the BB, when limped to had they been calling/checking or raising over limps while you were at the table with them?

    5) did anyone at the table ever say something to give you the impression they knew anything about how to play near the bubble, or ICM, or anything like that? Most people don’t, which counter-intuitively can sometimes make them harder to play against in spots like this (or at least means that they can negatively affect not only themselves but you as well with their errors)

  • marcel-dusyk

    Member
    May 11, 2023 at 11:16 am

    Thanks Jim!

    1) There had been 2 really short stacks at the other table, but both had chipped up to the 12-15bb stack.

    2) Blinds were going up in about 5 minutes.

    3) I had never played against the CO before, I had just gotten moved to this table a few minutes before.

    4) Player to my left can basically be described as an Old Man Coffee reg, no worries about getting raised unless he has a big hand. No table chatter about ICM but 2-3 players at the table I knew fairly well and they have played as having some understanding of ICM.

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