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  • Did I overplay KK?

    Posted by yamel on July 17, 2020 at 9:11 am

    We called last hand when it got down to heads up late into the night .1/.2 $40.26 effective stack. V plays a very narrow range, tight with raises, has discipline to fold one pair hands, and aggressive with value hands.

    We are on button with KhKc and open to .7, V makes it 2.2 and I call

    flop [4.80] 4d 6d 3d – v bets 4.80 and I raise to 19.20 (leaving 19.84 behind), v calls (18.86 behind)

    Turn [43.20] 4d 6d 3d As – v checks, I push, v calls turns over JdJs and misses

    In game I decided to play my hand fast because I didn’t have a diamond on this flop and was likely ahead. I got a little nervous when my raise got called on flop, but the turn check was good news. I wanted to make draws pay, but in hindsight should we be putting in 200 big blinds with a 1 pair hand? If I didn’t play it fast I wouldn’t get stacks in when I’m ahead, but I also don’t lose as much when diamonds hit.

    How would you play it?

    jim replied 3 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • fivebyfive

    Administrator
    July 17, 2020 at 10:37 am

    This is an interesting hand. Of course, we can be up against the dreaded AA, but I’m generally 4-betting this hand this deep. I like lowering the SPR on future streets and I think we can be called by worse often. Once we get to this flop, I’m much less interested in bloating this pot and likely calling. Monotone flops tend to disincentivize this kind of raise. My first choice would be a call here, in part because if I’m holding AdKd, I’m also still calling. My raising range is very narrow here, most likely just any sets or weaker flushes I can show up with. In this spot, the hands that we’re beating that call are underpairs with diamonds, AK/AQ/AJ with a diamond, and some sticky underpairs with no diamonds. I think we’d be lucky if anything but QQ fell into that range. So I like the call to keep in more of those hands that I beat and if a 4th diamond shows up, well so be it, I haven’t invested that much.

    The turn card is ugly. I’d argue after the large flop raise, V should be checking their entire continuing range, so I’m not sure how great that is for you. A lot of the range that you were previously beating and that called is now beating you (AK/AQ/AJ with a diamond). The range that we’re targeting by shoving and hoping to be called is QdQx, JdJx, maybe TdTx. That is far too narrow of a value target for this large of a shove. We’re more in bluff catching mode than let’s get stacks in mode. So I would be checking back this turn and hoping that we can check through clean rivers. If V shoves a non-diamond river after our check, we’re in a tough spot, but I’d rather make that decision than shove against a range that is beating us pretty often.

  • yamel

    Member
    July 17, 2020 at 10:52 am

    Makes a lot of sense @FiveByFive , need to slow down with my good one pair. Given that the flop came so low, I didn’t think there were any sets out there. This V is not 3 betting me large with small pairs preflop. But I guess we could have some. If there aren’t too many sets and two pairs, then we only have overpairs and AK type draws. So we would be calling entire range due to flop being monotone?

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