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  • Do you ever 4bet here?

    Posted by rabman50 on March 29, 2024 at 7:14 pm

    5NL 6-Max on ACR. Effective stacks ~100BB. Hero in HJ with Ah5h opens 2.4bb, Villain 1 in CO 3bets to 6bb, Villain 2 from SB calls. Does Hero ever 4bet here? Villain 1 stats: 156 hands 24/21/15 (VPIP/PFR/3B). Villain 2 stats: 80 hands 29/19/4. Villain 1 is playing very aggressively and he’s been stacked more than once.

    KobeTaylor replied 1 week, 3 days ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • binkley

    Member
    March 29, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    My default strat is to use A5s as my 4bet bluff when facing CO 3bet. The call by SB does complicate the decision. I think I would still put in the 4bet.

  • monkiesystem

    Member
    March 30, 2024 at 10:08 am

    One thing to think about here… A5s as a 4-bet is a bluff. In this case you’re trying to bluff two players out of the pot, including one who flatted a 3-bet OOP against 2 players with the action not closed yet. That might be JJ, AQs. Some do that with AK, TT as well. Not only that, but you’ll have to size the 4-bet significantly larger than usual to avoid pricing them in. This could mean investing one third of your 100b stack with A5.

  • eanderson85

    Member
    March 30, 2024 at 2:09 pm

    I don’t think Button’s VPIP/PFR is too out of line for 6-max, but on the high side. Their 15% 3bet is definitely on the aggressive side. It depends on how many hands you have on them and how passive the rest of table is. If you keep getting folds when you 3 bet, why stop 3-betting?
    How aggressive are YOU playing? Are you playing aggressive enough for Small Blind to slowplay against you? I would still cap their range and eliminate QQ+ and AK.
    The Pot is 15.4BB and you need to call 2.4 to continue, giving you 13% pot odds. It’s very likely that any pair you hit will be dominated, therefore we are flush mining with fold equity.
    The odds of you hitting your flush are 6.4%, so you can’t call. <b style=”background-color: var(–bb-content-background-color); font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; color: var(–bb-body-text-color);”>MATH: =((COMBIN(11,3)*COMBIN(39,2)) + (COMBIN(11,4)*COMBIN(39,1)) + (COMBIN(11,5)))/((50*49*48*47*46)/(5*4*3*2*1))

    Raising and folding are our only options. Raising against a 15% 3-better is a good play, but having someone willing to flat a 3bet from the Small Blind makes me wonder if it will be just as easy for them to flat a 4bet OOP. I’m with Keith on this one and think if we want to raise, it should be at least a pot-sized bet to threaten stacks on the flop.

    Without further reads, I would fold and hope opponents go to showdown so I can take notes, but for some reason if I think I can get them both to fold I would bet 25 to 30BB and reach for my wallet.

  • KobeTaylor

    Member
    April 15, 2024 at 7:10 am

    With those stats, Villain 1 seems pretty aggressive, which could mean they’re light on their 3-bets. Villain 2’s stats also suggest they might be in for a fight. In a similar situation, I once decided to 4-bet with a hand I wasn’t too confident about. Let’s just say it didn’t end well – felt like throwing good money after bad. So, my advice? Unless you’re feeling super confident or have a read on Villain 1, might be safer to tread carefully.

    • KobeTaylor

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      April 19, 2024 at 5:44 pm

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