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Draw Heavy Board
Hello. Short-time listerner to the podcast (but I love it), first-time poster. I would appreciate your input on my play.
First hand of a live tournament starting with 250BB. I’m in the BB with Ac6h. The Lojack, whom I recognize from this casino and a poker room 50 miles away as a very good reg/semi-pro/pro in his late 20s who probably kind of recognizes me but not to the extent that I recognize him, limps. The Button raises to 3BB. I reason that my hand is well within the Button’s range, so I call even though it’s not a speculative hand. The Lojack calls.
Flop is QcJc9c. I check. The Lojack bets 7BB into a pot of 10BB. The Button folds and I call.
Turn is 8c. I check. The Lojack bets 25BB into a pot of 24BB. I raise to 75BB and he shoves.
I called.
Thanks!
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8 Replies
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Welcome to the forum. It’s always great to get posts and input from more people.
Preflop: Hero with Ac6h (BB) calls 3bb iso bet by BN.
I prefer a fold here with A6o. Being 250bb deep, I want to play hands that make the nuts. A6o is the weakest Ax. We aren’t closing the action. With the limper being a solid player, the Button open is not a straight steal. I would give Button range to be tighter than if it had folded all the way to them.
Flop: QcJc9c, Hero checks, LJ bets 7bb, BN folds, Hero calls.
With the nut flush draw and extremely deep, call is reasonable. If we already had the nut flush, we might flat on the turn as well. We could consider a check raise as a bluff too.
Turn: QcJc9c (8c). Hero check, LJ bets 25bbs, Hero raise to 75bbs, LJ jams
Wow. What a turn. We make the nut flush. Check raise for value, then V jams. Ugh.
From the player description, I don’t think V is overvaluing K high flush. He is representing the straight flush only. But what TcX hand could V have? There are not many suited TcX hands left. Is he really limp calling from the LJ with offsuit Tx hands.
ATo, KTo?
Also would V always shove with the straight flush. Once you’ve shown this much aggression, V might chose to flat and get it in on the river.
I would call but prepared to at least have a good story of how my A high flush ran into a straight flush.
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You nailed it. He had the Tc and straight flush.
On my 45-minute drive home – I should have re-bought immediately, but I was suddenly not in the mood to play poker – after self-venting, I reflected that:
1) I should have folded A6o for the very reason you stated. I think A6o would have been fine to call against the BN in isolation – and that is in my normal calling range against the BN in isolation – but that’s not what this was. I knew in the moment that it was unorthodox call, but it was the first hand of the tournament – blinds were 100/100 and I had 25,000 chips – how much trouble could I get in? Now I know how much trouble I could get in. And, entering it all into PokerCruncher, I see now that my equity pre-flop was only 28%.
2) I knew the villain was a good player. I should have stopped and thought before I called his shove. Although I am sure I still would have called, I wouldn’t have been so gobsmacked when I lost. The truth is I was so focused on having made an A-high flush, I thought I had the nuts… even after we showed our hands.
I’m not sure how much of this “bad beat” was poor play on my part versus bad luck, but I am pretty sure I will not call with A6o in this spot again.
Thanks for your response.
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I am embarrased to say that I don’t even know. It was like a train had hit me. I thought I had won the hand, even after the dealer motioned for my chips. In my (weak) defense, I’ve been playing for less than a year; some of my leaks are like Niagara Falls.
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No worries. To be honest, I almost missed the straight flush possibility. But it’s a clue that you had the nut flush and you’re posting the hand.
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Welcome to the forums. Great to have you here. I agree with Binkley. This is a weird hand to begin with and I like the fold pre. If the original limper is as strong as you say, this is a strange limp that should already have our antenna up. It didn’t happen this time, but I’d expect a back raise from a strong holding a decent amount of the time if this isn’t a regular limper. If he’s a regular limper, then he can’t be that strong. But given that he’s behind you, the A6o is a fold to me pre. You’re either going to get back raised or go multiway with a hand that just is going to be reverse implied odds jail too much.
Once we get to the fireworks in this hand, it gets interesting. We’re so, so deep. There aren’t that many players that are bluff jamming their stack on this board. I guess the only question is, are they ever doing this with the Kc or a set? If they seemed like someone who didn’t understand things that well and could overplay a hand like that, I’d have to call. But I don’t think there are any real bluffs here, so if they can’t be overplaying and they don’t have any reasonable bluffs, I think I might find a fold.
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