[chappo]

*** EDIT HIS HAND WAS Q7cc

And I blocked AK.

[petvet]

You’re right Troy – this is a bad beat story.

There are many aggressive players who will find opportunities to 3 bet squeeze with this type of suited hand. This particular hand class (Q7s) will usually fold to a 4 bet, however your 4 bet to 7K gave villain excellent odds to call (12.1K in pot and 4.3K to call). As a matter of fact, he should never fold any 2 cards he 3bet with here. Perhaps a 4 bet closer to 11-12K would be better.

I think a normal Cbet on the flop, planning to call a shove or jam all non club turns would also be appropriate. 2.2x pot over jam allows villain to gamble knowing he gets to see 2 cards to hit his draw. The 7c may also wrap around the flop cards, giving him more backdoor draws.

I generally try to pot control in these larger buy in events when you start with 200+bbs. When a pot starts to blow up like this, just try to make the best sizing decisions and know that AA still loses more than a third of the time when called in this type of situation. We just wish those losses came in our nightly home games and not the big buy in live events????

[binkley]

I’ll first comment on the specific hand and strategy. Pot is 3100 (100+200+700+700x3callers) when the action comes to main V. His 2700 3bet is undersized (4200-4800 preferred) . Pot is 5800.

I agree with Kim said that 11-12K is a better 4bet sizing.

As played, pot is 17,100. SPR is ~2.2 so V remaining stack is ~37,500.

I like using a 7,500 cbet. We’re giving V pot odds of 30% when flush draw will hit on the turn only 19% of the time. We can get V to make a mistake by calling without the correct odds. We risk a little less to see if the turn is clean.

If the turn card is clean then this sets up a jam 30,000 jam into a pot of 32,100.

We’re giving V pot odds of 48% but V only has equity of 19%.

We’ve given V chance to make multiple mistakes and increasingly bigger mistakes.

[binkley]

“But I cant seem to steer clear of people like this i have moved up in buy ins and still run into people like this calling a large 4 bet with Q9 suited.”

It sounds like you play in very juicy games. Whenever I 4bet with AA, I’m hoping for a call. Are these players that you want to avoid?

Suppose it was a cash game, and a donkey just doubled up by calling down with garbage and chasing a flush draw. The last thing I would want would be for V to rack up and leave or to move to another table.

You can’t control what card comes on the river. But you can control your decisions at the table. If we make better decisions then our opponents, the good results will come in the long run.

[imalouigi]

Your overbet jam (theoretically) allows opponent to play perfect OTT. He should only be calling better and folding worse….and you are giving him too bad of odds to (theoretically) call a flush draw. You do not want to give your opponent such an easy decision. The fact that he calls off without the proper odds is a dream scenario for you despite the bad runout.

You should be using a bigger 4! sizing and I personally like a ~40% pot size bet OTF since it should set up an easy turn shove.

All you can control is your decisions which should be the focus of improving your game.