[fivebyfive]

(for the record, I folded)

[binkley]

I fold. If V just got caught bluffing, will V keep the same bluffing range or tighten up? Knowing that showing the bluff may increase call frequency, a good adjustment by V is to tighten their shoving range. Certainly some are maniacs no matter what, but something to consider.

[petvet]

This is an easy fold for me but I might have considered an open shove pre in this spot.

[rabman50]

Boring answer but I would also fold. It doesn’t matter how wide the maniac is shoving he still has some equity. Why risk your tournament life on this marginal spot. Besides, you should never go broke with AQ

[taylormaas]

Wow, everyone’s a nit! (JK :D)

But in seriousness, I’m happy calling here. If we’ve seen them be wide, that’s all I need to know that they are trying to put all the pressure back onto us. If this tournament was deeper, say 120 paid and there are 121 left, I’d probably fold. But the smaller the field is in these spots, the less ICM pressure we are under.

I’d probably call AJo too, but that’s the line where I start to get hesitant about it.

[fivebyfive]

I thought about this for a long time and folded, but I do think it is marginal, but potentially a mistake. I think I’ve taken too much to heart the don’t bust on the bubble wisdom and it might be costing me in these kinds of spots. The hand where this player shoved with Q4o they got called by QQ and it was a chop pot with a AKJTx. So it seemed like a meaningless hand, but they’d still shown a willingness to abuse the bubble. They’re potentially taking this kind of action with 70+% of their range. And AQo is doing awesome against that range.

Against an unknown, maybe we find the fold, but against players like this, I think we just have to hold our breath and call. And if they beat us with J7, so be it. I think based on the ICMizer analysis, when we find an opponent like this, I should be comfortable calling off here with AJs+/AQo+/99+. AJo/ATs/88 become the marginal holdings, but we could still call with them.

[jasperjr]

I fold even through villain is so transparently just abusing the bubble.

What hand do I call with here? Probably just KK and even then I’m closing my eyes, hoping for a good result. 😉

[ep1ct3tu5]

For what it’s worth, here’s my thoughts on this spot. If you truly want to maximise your ROI you have to fold. You are sat in a relatively comfortable position and can avoid busting empty handed. It’s fairly transparent that this villain is capitalising on the bubble but even if he showed you his/her hand and you had them dominated, do you want to give villain the opportunity to catch and suck out on you when winning one hand is the difference between cashing or going home empty handed? I just believe that a locked min cash ties in with a sound bankroll management strategy. Some could argue that this is a risk averse approach but I would disagree.

I would have to be one of the at risk of busting stacks/positions to play this but then obviously my move would have been the open shove.

My logic and rationale may not be absolutely accurate but I’m open to discuss further.

[papajoe]

I would have said fold and then I heard Ryan Laplante on the Rec Poker podcast saying that it is an easy call. I still would not call. Even though you cover him by 0.25bbs, you will probably bust in a few hands paying the antes. It is very doubtful that someone else is going to bust before you, that is if they are paying attention to the fact that you would be so short. It is less likely that the villain is going to shove super wide after just having got caught with Q4o.

I have to say that I am a nit and maybe this is holding me back.

It would be very interesting to get Dara O’Kearney’s view on this spot.