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  • Satellite ICM Spot in SB

    Posted by danw on October 2, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    We are in the Canterbury bankroll builder $120 tournament. Top 20% get $500. In this case 12th gets $300 and the top 11 get the full 500. There are 17 players remaining at the very odd 1000-1500 blind level.

    A once promising stack has dwindled to 13k (8.7bb). Nothing has been working due to the big stack to our left playing well and calling/raising the couple of marginal Aces I’ve had when in good position and then being aggressive on most flops that I have regrettably missed. I am the 2nd shortest stack at my table, and there is one other similar stack at the other table. Everyone else is pretty even so there is definitely some work to do to make the money.

    We are in the SB and look down at Q9 clubs. There is an under the gun limp from a tight passive player and it folds around to us. The previously mentioned good big stack is in the BB.

    Decision 1: The blinds are at the 1000-1500 level. Q9 suited feels too weak to jam here given the UTG limp. This is the type of player that could do this with any number of strong hands that I am crushed by and has shown a willingness to limp/call all ins. Not sure how much fold equity I have, if any. In addition this player is very transparent post flop and has basically been playing face up, betting with strong hands etc. However, its It’s only 1/2 bb more to see the flop/fold if BB raises. Given this spot in the tournament, should this be an option or is this a fold? I end up doing it. BB checks.

    Flop: Qd, 10s, 4d. UTG checks. As I said this player has been pretty transparent and donk leading with good hands previously. We hit here, but it’s a pretty wet board that I don’t feel like I want to give anyone any extra cards. 6k in the pot and we have 12.5k behind. Should I just be trying to get to showdown here? I feel like a check here opens me up to BB big stack aggression and given my stack a check/call here feels fruitless. A check raise all in depending on how UTG responds might have been a good line. I feel like a small bet here from my short stack doesn’t make sense either given both players can easily pay to see another card.

    Given that I need a double to have a shot I go with the jam. But in the back of my mind I was wondering if this is the exact kind of situation you are trying to avoid by completing the Sb with Q9s. I should have just looked for an all in preflop when I have some fold equity against hands that might have hit this board.

    Results:

    Bb folds. UTG finds a call with K10d.

    Turn Jack giving me a straight. River some diamond I was too mad to remember, but again wondering if I just screwed this spot up with the ICM implications.

    Also, I hung out and played cash for a bit and the bubble didn’t burst for another hour so this is being very results oriented but I don’t think I could have just folded my way in.

    binkley replied 2 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • danw

    Member
    October 2, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Flop Q, 10, 8, not Q 10 4.

  • binkley

    Member
    October 2, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    I’ve only played a few online satellites and never a live satellite. But here are my thoughts.

    With a remaining field of 17 and needing 5 eliminations to get into the money, that’s 30% of the field. As one of the shorter stacks, there isn’t a high amount of ICM pressure on you. Taking on some risk to get a double up or chip up in some way is fine.

    Decision 1: I have also observed that there are certain players that are willing to limp and call a jam. Puzzling that they consider a hand not strong enough to put in a raise but somehow strong enough to call off. So without much fold equity, I prefer the option of completing from the SB. The odd 1000/1500 blind level makes this even more attractive as we are only paying 1/3 bb to limp. There is a risk of the BB raising and forcing us to fold, but for that price it’s worth the risk.

    Flop decision:

    I do like the lead. Since it was a limped pot, there is no preflop aggressor that would be expected to cbet. The pot is 4bbs (assuming ante) and you have 6.7bbs remaining. The SPR is a bit awkward but I don’t think a jam is required. A bet of 1.7bbs (42% pot) charges the draws. If you get one caller, pot would be 7.4bbs and you would have 5bbs remaining. If the turn is clean (non-diamond, non-over to the Q), then you could bet your remaining stack for a 68% pot bet.

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