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  • Too tight?

    Posted by chappo on November 7, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    PokerStars Home Game Hand #220163636456: {RecPoker Community} Tournament #3043904047, 17000+3000 Hold’em No Limit – Level III (35/70) – 2020/11/07 21:23:28 ET

    Table ‘3043904047 1’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button

    Seat 2: Illychippies (3232 in chips)

    Seat 3: benmar (2912 in chips)

    Seat 5: hawesy8 (4639 in chips)

    Seat 6: Giggles6974 (2869 in chips)

    Seat 7: chappoaustralia (2591 in chips)

    Seat 8: pcs2005 (7558 in chips)

    Seat 9: Karl0621 (2009 in chips)

    Illychippies: posts the ante 9

    benmar: posts the ante 9

    hawesy8: posts the ante 9

    Giggles6974: posts the ante 9

    chappoaustralia: posts the ante 9

    pcs2005: posts the ante 9

    Karl0621: posts the ante 9

    benmar: posts small blind 35

    hawesy8: posts big blind 70

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to chappoaustralia [Ks Kh]

    Giggles6974: calls 70

    chappoaustralia: raises 210 to 280

    pcs2005: folds

    Karl0621: folds

    Illychippies: folds

    benmar: folds

    hawesy8: calls 210

    Giggles6974: calls 210

    *** FLOP *** [Jd 3c Td]

    hawesy8: bets 210

    Giggles6974: raises 679 to 889

    chappoaustralia: folds

    hawesy8: calls 679

    *** TURN *** [Jd 3c Td] [7c]

    hawesy8: checks

    Giggles6974: bets 1691 and is all-in

    hawesy8: folds

    Uncalled bet (1691) returned to Giggles6974

    Giggles6974 collected 2716 from pot

    Giggles6974: doesn’t show hand

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 2716 | Rake 0

    Board [Jd 3c Td 7c]

    Seat 2: Illychippies (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

    Seat 3: benmar (small blind) folded before Flop

    Seat 5: hawesy8 (big blind) folded on the Turn

    Seat 6: Giggles6974 collected (2716)

    Seat 7: chappoaustralia folded on the Flop

    Seat 8: pcs2005 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

    Seat 9: Karl0621 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

    yamel replied 3 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • binkley

    Member
    November 8, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    Flop:[Jd 3c Td]

    Pot is 956. BB leads for 210 (22% pot). UTG raises 679 to 889 (50% pot raise).

    Hero to call 889 into a pot of 2055. Equity required for break even call is 889/(889+[956+210+889]) = 30% if no more money goes into the pot.

    Risk is that BB 3bets. But if BB calls then equity required is 25%.

    What value hands does UTG have? Possible hands that would limp call are: JT and 33. Discount JJ and TT as they would likely open raise.

    Against exactly JT and 33, KK has 28% equity. So if UTG is only raising with a value hands then it’s a slightly losing call.

    What possible bluffs does UTG have? Strongest draws are Ad3d (pair & nut FD), AdXd (nut FD), KdQd, Qd9d,9d8d.

    If we include just Ad3d into UTG range, then equity goes to 30%.

    Are there hands that UTG might over-value? AJ, KJ, QJ are possible over-valued hands.

    If we include QJ, then equity goes to 38%.

    So if we think UTG is bluffing at some frequency or overvaluing top pair, then we should continue. If our read of the opponent makes us pretty certain that UTG range is 100% value, then a fold is reasonable.

  • yamel

    Member
    November 9, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Agree with Binkley that JT and 33 are most likely value hands. If we decide to call, we should assume they are on a flush draw and should treat this as a bluff catcher hoping they check the turn to see a free river, and that they bluff that river for us to catch the bluff with one pair….once stacks go in on turn I think that puts our bluff catching plans in a tough spot.

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