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Venom Hand: QQ (yeah!) and then everyone and their uncle flats (ugh)
I said I’d post this for a few that were watching the stream. This is early in the Venom that I satellited into. Big buy in with a deep structure and long levels. How would you approach this hand?
Game Hand #1104673289 – Tournament #26082335 – Holdem(No Limit) – Level 3 (1000.00/2000.00)- 2022/01/30 18:54:19 UTC
Table ’60’ 8-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: WeonCuliao (299700.00)
Seat 2: D21marsh (294660.00)
Seat 3: Whyisjadakiss (418736.00)
Seat 4: MarkusAurelius (373305.00)
Seat 5: AmericanDreamz (453141.00)
Seat 6: blowdesenutz (203606.00)
Seat 7: FiveByFive (245230.00)
Seat 8: Kraskata85 (185085.00)
WeonCuliao posts ante 300.00
D21marsh posts ante 300.00
Whyisjadakiss posts ante 300.00
MarkusAurelius posts ante 300.00
AmericanDreamz posts ante 300.00
blowdesenutz posts ante 300.00
FiveByFive posts ante 300.00
Kraskata85 posts ante 300.00MarkusAurelius posts the small blind 1000.00
AmericanDreamz posts the big blind 2000.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Main pot 2400.00Dealt to FiveByFive [Qh Qd]
blowdesenutz folds
FiveByFive raises 5400.00 to 5400.00
Kraskata85 calls 5400.00
WeonCuliao calls 5400.00
D21marsh folds
Whyisjadakiss calls 5400.00
MarkusAurelius folds
AmericanDreamz folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 4h 9c]
Main pot 27000.00FiveByFive checks
Kraskata85 checks
WeonCuliao bets 11500.00
Whyisjadakiss folds
FiveByFive calls 11500.00
Kraskata85 raises 33500.00 to 33500.00
WeonCuliao calls 22000.00
FiveByFive folds
[REST OF THE HAND IS BELOW IF CURIOUS…But mostly curious about how you approach this flop spot? Do you cbet into 4 players? Do you ever raise yourself? Do you ever call after xR and call? Or do you play exactly like I did?]
*** TURN *** [6d 4h 9c] [2c]
Main pot 105500.00Kraskata85 bets 39500.00
WeonCuliao calls 39500.00
*** RIVER *** [6d 4h 9c 2c] [Th]
Main pot 184500.00Kraskata85 bets 106385.00 and is all-in
WeonCuliao folds
Uncalled bet (106385.00) returned to Kraskata85
Kraskata85 does not show*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 184500.00
Board [6d 4h 9c 2c Th]
Seat 1: WeonCuliao folded on the River
Seat 2: D21marsh folded on the Pre-Flop and did not bet
Seat 3: Whyisjadakiss (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: MarkusAurelius (small blind) folded on the Pre-Flop
Seat 5: AmericanDreamz (big blind) folded on the Pre-Flop
Seat 6: blowdesenutz folded on the Pre-Flop and did not bet
Seat 7: FiveByFive folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Kraskata85 did not show and won 184500.00 -
3 Replies
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You gotta hate being out of position. I would definitely check with three players in-position behind me. Based on the action we can assume that there are no overpairs to the queens. There are very few drawing hands that call pre-flop and broadway overcards are not playing this aggressive. That leaves a lot of pocket pairs that just hit sets. I play it the same. Good disciplined fold.
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I would never check this flop when playing this deep. I would probably make a 1/2-2/3 pot sized bet and proceed very cautiously if raised, possibly folding depending on size but then again who knows what would happen if we CBet? Facing a lot of action we can probably fairly easily fold here after showing strength with the CBet into 4 players. When we don’t CBet here, we don’t get the information we need to go forward in the hand and are in no man’s hand with our big overpair. Definitely CBet.
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Whether it’s correct or not, I’m always c betting here. I think the check from the pre flop aggressor looks weak and almost as though you are giving up on the hand like your A K missed. You don’t define your hand value by checking but will garner further information by cbetting. If the action blows up then you’ve established your standing in the hand. I’m with Petvet on this one.
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