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  • Hand Breakdown

    Posted by Unknown Member on July 24, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    $100 MTT
    Blinds 1500/3000 100 ante
    8 player table

    Hero wakes up with AcJs in bb with 34bb effective. UTG+1 (22bb) raises 2x. It folds to hero who calls. Flop Ad 10h 9s. Hero checks. Villian bets 1bb. Hero calls. Turn Qs. Hero checks. Villian bets 4.7bb. Hero calls. River 4d. Villian shoves 14.7bb. What should hero do?

    binkley replied 3 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • trayjax21

    Member
    July 24, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    What type of player is the villain you’re up against?

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      July 24, 2020 at 8:21 pm

      Solid regular player

      • trayjax21

        Member
        July 24, 2020 at 9:13 pm

        If he’s a solid regular, I’d say you made a good fold. I ran it through Flopzilla, and even giving him some bluff shoves on the river with combo draws that missed, at best I think you were a 3-1 dog.

  • jim

    Administrator
    July 24, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    what do you make of the sizing discrepancy between the flop and the turn? What are they setting up the river for?

  • steve-fredlund

    Member
    July 24, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    This ultimately comes down to what we think this player is opening UTG with only 22 big blinds. They should be quite tight here. The 1BB bet on the flop is interesting and the turn looks like he is setting up a river shove. So on the turn, you need to decide if you are going to call off on most rivers, otherwise it’s a turn fold. There are a ton of two pairs, sets, straights and even AK that beat us. I’m wondering what missed draws or hands he would have that are not value heavy, assuming he’s checking back his one pair hands here.

  • binkley

    Member
    July 25, 2020 at 1:31 am

    One way to approach this spot is to ask if your opponent would make this river bet with the best hand that you beat. So holding AJ on this board, do we think that someone holding A8 make this river shove? Since I don’t think that A8 would, this makes me lean toward a fold.

    Going to the river, the pot is 15.35BB. Opponent jams for 14.7BB. Equity needed call is 14.7/(14.7+15.35)=48.9%

    Opponent value hands that beat us are:

    Sets: AA,TT, 99,QQ

    Two pair: AT, A9, AQ, T9, QT, Q9, A4

    Discount A4 based on large turn bet.

    Straights: KJ, J8s

    Top pair, top kicker: AK

    Value Combos:

    Sets: 1+3+3+3 = 10

    Two pair: 6+6+6=18

    Straights: 16+4=20

    TPTK: 8

    Total: 56

    Bluffs with no showdown:

    FD: Ks8s, Ks7s,Ks6s,8s7s

    OESD: 8h7h,8c7c,8d7d

    The opponent would need to be bluffing with hands that have some showdown value. Assume that top pairs get checked and middle/bottom pairs get bluffed.

    Middle and bottom pair with OESD: QJs, JTs, JJ, J9s

    Middle and bottom pair with FD: KsTs, Ts8s

    Middle and bottom pairs with gutshots: KK, KcTc,KdTd, 98s, 88

    Bluffs Combos:

    FD: 1+1+1+1=4

    OESD: 3

    Middle and bottom pair with OESD: 3+3+6+3=15

    Middle and bottom pair with FD: 1+1=2

    Middle and bottom pairs with gutshots: 6+2+3+6 = 17

    Total Bluffs: 41

    41/(41+56)=42.3% < 48/9% needed for a break even call.

    It’s a fold.

    Since most solid players aren’t turning pairs into bluffs, there will be way more value than bluffs. The equity of calling will be way less than 42%.

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